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Three Colorado teens appear in court charged with fatally throwing giant landscaping rock through windscreen of 20-year-old female driver's car and then taking PHOTO as a sick memento
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Leroy N. Soetoro
2023-10-29 20:10:36 UTC
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Three teenage boys appeared in court Wednesday accused of killing a 20
year-old woman by hurling a rock through the windshield of her car.

Nicholas 'Mitch' Karol-Chik, Joseph Koenig and Zachary Kwak, all 18, faced
a judge in Jefferson County, Colorado, over the April 19 murder of Alexa
Bartell, 20.

The trio have already been charged with crimes including first-degree
murder - and now face additional counts of assault and attempted assault.

Those charges relate to other incidents of rocks being hurled at cars
which prosecutors say they were responsible for too.

Karol-Chik, Koenig and Kwak sat next to each other in the dock - the first
time they've seen each other since being arrested over the killing of
Alexa, which saw a huge rock hurled through the windshield of her yellow
Chevy Spark.

Former Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman was in court to watch
proceedings, and suggested the case could well go to a full trial.

He told KDVR: 'The majority of cases end with a plea bargain but I’m not
sure that will happen here given the number of victims. We shall see how
the evidence plays out.'

According to the Jefferson County SheriffŽs Office, Alexa Bartell was
talking on the phone with a friend while driving in her yellow Chevy Spark
at 10:45pm on April 19 in Arvada, Suburban Denver, when she was hit by the
rock.

After the call went silent, the friend tracked Bartell's location with a
phone app, drove to her, and found the woman dead in her car, which had
crashed into a field.

The boys returned later to take a photo of the car as a 'memento', Karol-
Chik told investigators when questioned.

They also allegedly attacked six other cars in Arvada on April 19, First
Judicial District Attorney Alexis King announced.

Meanwhile, MSU Professor of Criminal Justice and Criminology Denise Mowder
told KDVR that she thinks prosecutors have a strong first-degree murder
case.

She explained: '

The killing was the fourth of six rock-hurling incidents reported from
10pm onwards on that same evening, causing minor injuries to two other
drivers.

The office of Karol-Chik's lawyer, Holly Gummerson, and Koenig's lawyer,
Tom Ward, declined to comment. A message left by the Associated Press for
Kwak's lawyer, Emily Boehne, was not immediately returned. During a brief
afternoon court hearing, the lawyers all declined to have the charges
read.

Karol-Chik told investigators that Koenig slowed down so Kwak could get a
photo of Bartell's car after it crashed into a field. He said all three
got excited every time they hit a car with landscaping rocks taken from a
Walmart parking lot, but acknowledged he felt 'a hint of guilt' passing by
her car, according to court documents.

Kwak said he took the photo because he thought that Karol-Chik or Koenig
would want to have a 'memento' of what had happened, according to the
arrest affidavits.

He reportedly told the others: 'We have to go back and see that.'

Karol-Chik told investigators with the Jefferson County SheriffŽs Office
that he and Koenig had thrown rocks and even a statue at passing cars on
at least 10 other days before Bartell was killed. Kwak heard about what
they had been doing and asked to join them, according to Karol-Chik's
account in the affidavits.

Karol-Chik and Kwak offered different accounts about who threw the fatal
rock.

Koenig did not speak to investigators after he was arrested, according to
the arrest affidavits.

Prosecutor Padraic Emerine said: 'This was an extremely reckless and
irresponsible situation that the defendant was involved in that,
unfortunately, cost the life of a very innocent and very young woman in
this case.'

A friend of the trio told police he'd watched them several hours earlier
as they loaded a truck with landscaping rocks taken from a Walmart parking
lot. The friend claimed the three boys picked up 'as many as they could
carry'.

He said he knew 'something bad was going to happen' so asked Koenig,
Karol-Chik and Kwak to take him home.

The three alleged killers then patrolled roads in the area and searched
for passing cars to target.

Kwak said they would use 'marine terms' when launching the rocks, saying:
'Mitch would say things like, ‘contact left,’ before Joseph would throw
the rock at a car on the left side of theirs.'

He said the rock which killed Bartell made a 'very loud noise... like a
rail gun' when it made contact with her windshield.

Koenig was described by a friend as someone who likes creating 'chaos' and
would often act in a destructive manner.

'Joseph and Mitch were talking about them now being ‘blood brothers’ and
they could never speak of the incident,' Kwak added.

The three met up the following day to 'get their stories straight'.

They had thrown rocks at vehicles on about ten occasions since February.
Six other cars were damaged and two more drivers were injured on the night
Bartell was killed.

Lyft and Uber driver Nathan Tipton was uninjured after being targeted.

Speaking to reporters at a news conference on Tuesday, he said he was
headed southbound on Highway 93, close to the Jefferson County and Boulder
County lines, at around 10.15pm.

'I saw two vehicles going northbound, but all I could see was the
headlights, it was a dark road,' he said. 'And then a large shatter - it
sounded like a shotgun blast. It scared the heck out of me.'

He said he pulled over immediately and saw that both driver-side windows
of his mini van had been shattered.

'It's horrible. Nobody should lose their child for a random act of
whatever this is,' he added.
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2023-10-29 21:16:01 UTC
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Trump’s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison—Here's
Updated Aug 22, 2023, 03:00pm EDT

Topline

Former President Donald Trump has been indicted on 91 federal and state
charges in total after being indicted for the fourth time Monday in Fulton
County, Georgia, facing a range of felony charges that all carry potential
prison sentences that add up to a potential maximum sentence of 717.5
years in prison, though Trump is highly unlikely to face that much time.
Donald Trump

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Key Facts

Manhattan – 136 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with 34 counts of
falsifying business records in the first degree in his first indictment in
Manhattan, stemming from “hush money” payments made during his 2016
campaign, which as a class “E” felony under New York law carries a maximum
four-year prison sentence for each count if convicted.

Trump could face over 100 years in prison if he were convicted of every
charge in that case, but legal experts suggest it’s unlikely he’ll face
any prison time at all in this case as a first-time offender.

PROMOTED

Classified Documents – 450 Years Maximum: Trump faces 40 federal charges
after being indicted for bringing White House documents back to Mar-A-Lago
with him and allegedly trying to obstruct the Justice Department’s
investigation into them, including 32 counts of willful retention of
national security documents, six counts related to obstruction and two
counts for scheme to conceal and making false statements.

That could result in 450 years maximum imprisonment, based on the willful
retention charges each carrying up to 10 years in prison, the obstruction
charges carrying potential 20-year penalties and the false statement
charges carrying potentially five years each.

Federal Election Investigation – 55 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with
four felony counts as part of the Justice Department’s investigation into
his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including conspiracy to defraud
the U.S., obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and
conspiracy against rights, a 19th century law that criminalizes when two
or more people “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate” any
Americans “in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege”
they’re afforded under the Constitution or federal law.

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Those charges could result in more than 50 years in prison if Trump were
convicted of all counts, based on maximum sentences of five years for
conspiracy to defraud, 20 years for each obstruction charge and 10 years
for conspiracy against rights.

Fulton County – 76.5 Years Maximum: Trump was indicted on 13 state charges
in Fulton County for trying to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election—part of 41
total counts brought against 19 defendants—including charges for
racketeering (known as RICO charges), solicitation of violation of oath by
a public officer, conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer,
conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree, false statements and
writings, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, filing false
documents and conspiracy to commit filing false documents.

Trump could spend more than 70 years in prison if he were convicted on all
counts, based on maximum sentences of 20 years for racketeering, three
years for solicitation (three counts), 2.5 years for conspiracy to
impersonate a public officer, 7.5 years for forgery conspiracy (two
counts), five years for false statements (two counts), 2.5 years for
conspiracy to commit false statements (two counts), 10 years for filing
false documents and five years for conspiracy to file false documents.
Contra

While all of the crimes Trump’s been indicted for do carry possible prison
sentences, most do not carry mandatory sentences if convicted and can also
potentially be punishable by a fine. Criminal solicitation and forgery in
Georgia are the only charges against Trump in which the statutes don’t
specify it can be punishable by a fine instead.
What We Don’t Know

What Trump’s actual prison sentences will be, if he’s convicted of any of
the crimes he’s been charged with. Trump is unlikely to receive maximum
prison sentences as a first-time offender, Politico notes, and even if
he’s convicted of multiple crimes, he might be ordered to serve out his
sentences concurrently, meaning he could serve sentences for multiple
counts simultaneously rather than one after the other. Trump could also be
helped out in the documents case by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, the
judge overseeing the case who would sentence him if convicted, who Trump
appointed and has been deferential toward him in the past.
What To Watch For

Trump’s trial in Manhattan is scheduled to start on March 25, 2024,
followed by the documents case going to trial on May 20, 2024, though
those dates could be changed. No date has been set yet for Trump’s federal
indictment for trying to overturn the 2020 election, though prosecutors
have proposed a trial date of January 2. It’s also still unclear when the
Fulton County case will go to trial, and while District Attorney Fani
Willis suggested prosecutors want the trial to take place within the next
six months, that may be unlikely given the complex nature of the 19-
defendant case.
Chief Critic

Trump has strongly denied all of the charges against him in each
indictment, pleading not guilty to the first three sets of charges and
decrying the Fulton County indictment as a “witch hunt.” “These monsters,
all controlled and coordinated by the DOJ and Radical Left Lunatics, are
Criminalizing Political Speech, a total SHUTDOWN OF DEMOCRACY!” Trump
claimed on Truth Social Tuesday night. (Legal experts have disputed
Trump’s claim that his attempts to overturn the election were First
Amendment-protected speech.)
Surprising Fact

Trump being convicted and sentenced to prison would not in itself stop him
from serving as president if he were reelected in 2024—or from campaigning
for the job—though it would likely present some logistical challenges.
Legal experts cited by Politico said it’s likely any sentences from state
courts would likely be postponed until after his presidential term ends,
and while it’s less clear what would happen in the case of any federal
sentences, Trump could try to pardon himself from those charges. (It’s
still legally uncertain if he could do so.)
Key Background

Trump is the first sitting or former president to be indicted on felony
charges. His indictments were brought over the past several months
following years-long investigations by federal and local prosecutors, with
special counsel Jack Smith being appointed in November to oversee the
Justice Department’s two investigations into the former president. The
charges in Fulton County were brought Monday against 19 defendants,
alleging Trump was part of a broader criminal conspiracy to subvert the
election results. Polling suggests that Trump’s indictments have only
bolstered his standing in the Republican presidential primaries among his
GOP base, though it’s still unclear how his indictments—or by that point,
any convictions—could impact the ex-president in a general election.
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